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Gabbard, RFK Jr. face make-or-break second after perilous hearings

By Miles Cooper February 4, 2025
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Tulsi Gabbard and Robert F. Kennedy Jr. are staring down essential assessments on Tuesday as Senate committees will resolve whether or not to advance their nominations to the ground amid rising stress from allies of President Trump. 

The pair of contentious nominees are dealing with key panel votes that may decide the way forward for Trump’s picks to guide the U.S. intelligence equipment and the Division of Well being and Human Companies, respectively.

The votes will come simply days after every had perilous moments throughout their affirmation hearings that appeared to lift recent doubts amongst GOP lawmakers.

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The Senate Finance Committee will vote Tuesday morning on Kennedy, whereas the Intelligence panel is anticipated to take action behind closed doorways for Gabbard within the afternoon.

“I think [they’re] both going to be fine,” mentioned Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R-Okla.), a prime ally of Trump and Senate Majority Chief John Thune (R-S.D.).

“I was very confident in [Kennedy] throughout the process. … I said we had work to do with Tulsi. Tulsi’s done the work and I feel good where we’re at.”

Neither Gabbard nor Kennedy are anticipated to win any assist from Democrats, and should win over skeptical Republicans on the committees.

For Gabbard, the important thing Republican vote is Sen. Todd Younger (R-Ind.). There are 9 Republicans on the panel and eight Democrats, which means Younger might finish Gabbard’s possibilities if he votes in opposition to her.

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Younger was one in every of a number of Republicans and Democrats who pressed Gabbard on whether or not she thought Edward Snowden, the ex-NSA contractor who leaked myriad labeled paperwork and fled the U.S., is a traitor. 

She repeatedly mentioned that Snowden broke the regulation, however refused to label his acts traitorous. 

Younger, a former Marine intelligence officer who by no means formally endorsed Trump’s 2024 marketing campaign, was visibly miffed whereas questioning Gabbard over the problem.

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“It’s notable you didn’t say, ‘Yes, he clearly hurt, in various ways, our national security,’” Younger responded at one level.

His potential opposition pushed Trump allies into overdrive over the weekend to heap stress on him.

Main that effort was Elon Musk, who posted on X that the Indiana Republican is “a deep state puppet.” Musk ultimately deleted the publish after speaking immediately with Younger, saying later that the senator is “a great ally in restoring power to the people from the vast, unelected bureaucracy.”

A Younger spokesperson instructed The Hill that the 2 had a “great conversation on a number of subjects and policy areas where they have a shared interest, like DOGE.”

The Indiana senator indicated he was nonetheless undecided, telling reporters: “You guys will hear more from me tomorrow.”

However, prime Senate Republicans had been optimistic Younger would get on board. 

“Todd’s in a good place. I think Elon handled that very well. … I think Todd is doing just what [Sen. Thom Tillis] did,” Mullin continued, pointing to how the North Carolina senator tried to search out readability on allegations dealing with Protection Secretary Pete Hegseth within the hours earlier than his vote to guide the Pentagon. 

“He’s being very methodical, asking the right questions, trying to where he needs to be to feel good about where he needs to go,” Mullin added. 

Gabbard additionally received an enormous win on the eve of the panel vote as Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), who had additionally been thought of a swing vote, introduced that she’s going to assist her. Collins had beforehand indicated she was anxious about Gabbard’s stance on Part 702 of the International Intelligence Surveillance Act, however mentioned in a press release that feedback about Snowden and the function of the DNI pushed her into the “aye” column.

Collins additionally instructed reporters that Gabbard “elaborated further on her reluctance” to label Snowden a traitor. 

In the meantime, Kennedy additionally has a singular focus: profitable over the assist of Sen. Invoice Cassidy (R-La.), a member of the Finance Committee who might single-handedly finish his affirmation hopes. 

Cassidy, a medical physician, was visibly upset throughout Thursday’s listening to after he gave Kennedy a number of alternatives to step again from unfounded claims he made prior to now linking rising reported circumstances of autism to vaccines. Kennedy refused and ultimately instructed an exasperated Cassidy that he might meet with the senator to indicate him extra data. 

“I have been struggling with your nomination,” Cassidy instructed Kennedy on the finish of Thursday’s Senate Well being, Training, Labor and Pensions (HELP) Committee listening to. Kennedy appeared for 2 affirmation hearings, however solely the Finance Committee will vote on whether or not to advance him. Cassidy sits on each panels.

The Louisiana Republican instructed reporters on the Capitol on Monday that he was nonetheless “working through” Kennedy’s nomination, including that their dialogue over the weekend was “cordial.”

Republican leaders indicated that talks had been persevering with so as to get the pair via every panel.

“We’re continuing to talk to our members,” Senate Majority Whip John Barrasso (R-Wyo.) mentioned, including that these talks can be persevering with on the ground Monday night time throughout votes. 

There’s been chatter across the Capitol about the potential of getting Gabbard to a ground vote even when she doesn’t win the assist of all 9 GOP members on the panel, although it’s unclear if Republicans will try the maneuver. 

Usually, nominees are voted out “favorably” or “unfavorably,” however members and allies of Trump have left open the potential of permitting her to flee the panel with none formal suggestions. Mick Mulvaney grew to become director of the Workplace of Administration and Funds in 2017 after an analogous maneuver on the committee degree. 

Nonetheless, Thune mentioned final week that doesn’t see that occuring. 

Even nonetheless, the White Home stays upbeat about their capability to get the inexperienced gentle from members.

“I’ve gotten a great response,” Trump mentioned within the Oval Workplace about their prospects. “I think we will do well.”

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